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Introducing Horror Daddy J

• Ganja Goddesses • Episode 26

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Join us in this candid and heartfelt episode as we sit down with Horror Daddy J to explore his journey through kink, sexuality, and self-discovery. Growing up with early exposure to his father's porn stash, he’s always been attuned to his desires.  Raised in a conservative, Christian environment, he reflects on how education and experience have helped him embrace a vibrant, rainbow-colored view of sexuality and love.  He shares practical advice like asking specific safety questions and taking classes to better understand the risks involved.


We share our love story, from a mysterious Facebook friend request, long-distance connection, and first in-person meeting at a kink event. With stories of memorable scenes: fire play, impact play, and more, he dispels the myths often glamorized by media, reminding listeners that BDSM requires knowledge, respect, and consent. Talking openly about his own late-diagnosis of autism, Horror Daddy J details how he feels embraced for his true self within the kink community. An advocate for self-love and authenticity, he encourages listeners to reject societal expectations of the “perfect” life and instead embrace their true desires. Additionally, he shares how cannabis has become an essential tool for reducing anxiety, managing pain, and enhancing intimacy. Wrapping up, the conversation touches on personal growth, mental health, and creative pursuits . 


Key Topics Covered:

  • How we met and managed long distance
  • Early influences on sexuality and desire
  • Diversity and inclusion within the kink community
  • Navigating neurodivergence, masking, and sensory needs
  • Memorable kink scenes: fire play, impact, urethral sounding, and more
  • Aftercare practices: cuddles, debriefs, and cannabis use
  • Myths about cannabis and its benefits for stress and intimacy
  • Challenging societal expectations and embracing authentic self-expression
  • Designing custom BDSM gear and exploring creative kink pursuits


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SPEAKER_02:

Hi, I'm Miss Mackenzie.

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And I'm Parker Lee.

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SPEAKER_02:

Welcome back, my lovely listeners. I have such a treat for you today. I have my amazing partner, Horror Daddy J, with me today, and I wanted everyone to get to know him a little bit better. I've come up with some questions to delve deep with him about kink, sexuality, intimacy, and cannabis. All of our favorite things. We've been together for two years now, so this episode is finally here. We don't have Parker Lee with us for our time this time, but um let's see if we can entertain you anyway. So um why don't you tell everyone a little bit about yourself, honey, before we get into some of the questions I have?

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, Princess. Hi everyone. I'm Horidaddy J. Um 33, 6'3, switch, only with Miss Mackenzie.

SPEAKER_02:

Um I make all of her custom woodwork that's on her site and all the furniture, all the sexy kinky toys, all the bondage stuff.

SPEAKER_00:

Everything's made here in-house. Literally.

SPEAKER_02:

And um and you're also really loving doing pro dom work, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes. Anything else? That's it.

SPEAKER_00:

It's all I can think of off the top of my head, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Obviously, a horror fanatic.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, absolutely. Uh tis that time of year again, my favorite time of year. It's getting cold outside and it's spooky movie season.

SPEAKER_02:

Love that. Yes, yes, yes. So I did have some questions from my listeners, from my students that wanted to know a little bit about you. So some of these questions might be a little bit surprising. Okay. Yeah? Are you ready? Yeah, let's go. Okay. Um, and know that we may be smoking at some point during this conversation. What? Yeah. Okay. Let's just jump off. Okay. How did you first discover your interest in kink and sexuality?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, you see as you see someone as someone exposed to um sexual images at a at a really young age because little boys are curious, and I found my father's porn stash.

SPEAKER_02:

As you do. As one does.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Um, but you know, five's a little bit younger to find it than probably most. Yeah. Than a lot. Um, so I've always been more in tune with sexual urges and such coming up through life. So I found I stumbled into the more interesting uh side of things, which is king, not just your typical missionary and uh sex.

SPEAKER_02:

The fun stuff.

SPEAKER_00:

All the fun stuff.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, can you share a moment where when you felt the most liberated exploring your desires?

SPEAKER_00:

That would honestly have to be whenever I met you because there was a complete sense of safety and understanding. There was no judgment when I was coming into this. So I knew that you accepted me for who I was and who I wanted to be in your standard vanilla life and in the kink lifestyle.

SPEAKER_02:

Was there like a moment that you felt like really liberated?

SPEAKER_00:

It was pretty much whenever we were whenever we were dating and you were explaining your life and your lifestyle. When I was telling you, like you were asking me about all my kinks, and I was just like naming them off and couldn't really figure anything out. And you're like, Well, what you don't figure out, we can figure out later together. And so I knew at that point that it was it was gonna be pretty great.

SPEAKER_02:

And it has been, it has been amazing. I love that. Um, people might want to know how we met.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh.

SPEAKER_02:

Actually, I didn't even think about that. People may want to know that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so this beautiful woman right here decided to send me a friend request on Facebook of all places.

SPEAKER_02:

Guys, never in my entire adult life did I ever reach out to anybody first, ever. That's just not me. That's not a a thing that I think to do. And I don't know what happened. The universe was just like, you need to do this. Spoke through me. I'm not sure. Sorry, get.

SPEAKER_00:

So uh she sent a friend request and uh I messaged it.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm like, hey, you know, do I immediately might we might I add? Yeah, immediately.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, it was at night. I was working night shift, so um, but yeah, I sent a message. I was like, hey, you know, do I know you? Whatever. And she was like, No, I just I just thought you were cute and saw you posted something, figured I'd reach out. And so uh from there, that's pretty much that. I mean, she did have to be like, I am flirting with you, you know, flat out, like exact wording.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, because you had no idea.

SPEAKER_00:

I didn't, because I mean, in today's time, it's you know, people can be nice, and there's a lot of creepy ass people who mistake that for flirting.

SPEAKER_02:

So true. So true.

SPEAKER_00:

Also, being now newly understanding that I'm autistic, that also means why I can't pick up when people are flirting or yeah, I can't pick up.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, for sure. It's your lovely neurodivergence.

SPEAKER_00:

It absolutely is.

SPEAKER_02:

But you were like, there's no way that this pretty girl is into me. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00:

I was like, this has gotta be a scam.

unknown:

This has gotta be a scam.

SPEAKER_00:

She's gonna ask me to go get a green dot card.

SPEAKER_02:

Share the pin and everything.

SPEAKER_00:

I need you to read me.

SPEAKER_02:

You're funny. Um, how do you think or how has your perspective, if at all, on sexuality evolved over time?

SPEAKER_00:

Would you like to hit this before you say that?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Holding on to it. Hopefully our listeners are you know, smoking along with us.

SPEAKER_00:

Hopefully.

SPEAKER_02:

If you're sober, no big deal. Or if you don't, you know, smoke weed, no big deal.

SPEAKER_00:

So my perspective of sexuality's changed because I've just educated myself and took a step back and looked at the world through different set of eyes. Growing up in the South, um, I was raised very religious, very Christian, not necessarily in my household, but in my family, um, with people that I was really close with, my grandparents. And so, you know, I I had that upbringing upbringing, the Christian mentality for a long time. And then as I was educating myself, which, you know, we're supposed to do to continue evolving as humans.

SPEAKER_02:

Since um, you know, school doesn't go too much into that. Yeah. Except for abstinence.

SPEAKER_00:

Mm-hmm. So uh, you know, just experiences and people have taught me that, you know, there's there's no black and white, there's there's fucking beautiful rainbows all over the place. It's just I love that.

SPEAKER_02:

That's such a good way to put that. I love that.

SPEAKER_00:

And you know, if you really are straight, that's cool. If you're not, that's also cool. There's no reason to be ashamed of it. I understand that, you know, people are have tough families. Um but you know, it's your life, it's short. Don't let anybody sway you not to live it to your fullest and love who you want.

SPEAKER_02:

And explore as long as things are consensual. Our whole, I think our society teaches us that we're supposed to be in these boxes. And um, studies have really shown recently, they've done a lot of studies that the more you break up your day with something new, um, whether it's kink or sexuality or interests or conversations you're gonna have, but breaking it up and not having the same day really helps like days last longer and are be more meaningful. So yeah, I love that. Um, I have one here. Can you describe the most memorable kink experience you've had?

SPEAKER_00:

Um our first date, which is my first kink event, my first like actual.

SPEAKER_02:

So we were so we were long distance for almost nine months, and it was very hard. It was much harder than I thought. Everyone talks about long distance, and I'd been long distance, but um it was it was gut-wrenching every time I left.

SPEAKER_03:

Same.

SPEAKER_02:

So when we finally got to actually be together, um, yeah. When we finally got to be together, it was just like more than fireworks.

SPEAKER_00:

It it was, even though it was in a very, very peculiar hotel room with three, three full-size beds. No clue why.

SPEAKER_02:

So the first time that we met, guys, we our first date was at a weekend long kink event. And so um, we weren't staying in the host hotel, we were staying in the third overflow hotel, second or third overflow hotel, and it was um a time.

SPEAKER_00:

It was.

SPEAKER_02:

There was Is that why it was memorable?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, well, I mean, it was memorable because like that was my first kink event, and it also included all kinds of well, first weekend long.

SPEAKER_02:

You'd been to parties.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Though the the parties were not so great. We're just gonna put that out there. But this the kink event was great. Definitely got a lot of uh I can't I can't tell you how many bags I pulled out of that little car.

SPEAKER_02:

I um I was pretty uh romantic. I got you special blue roses.

SPEAKER_00:

I know, and I spread them all over the room very quickly as I was bringing in luggage behind you. It was great.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly. So that was your most memorable?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay. Um, well, it wasn't okay. So kink experience as a whole, since it was an event. Got it. I see.

SPEAKER_00:

That that's where my brain took that question.

SPEAKER_02:

That makes sense, yeah. Um, what's one thing you wish more people understood about kink?

SPEAKER_00:

You can't just let anybody say that they know what they're doing. You really need to understand what your kink safety is really all about. You can't just let some guy that swears up and down a line he's a daddy and a Dom come and do whatever because that is where you can get into unsafe situations.

SPEAKER_02:

For sure. Like, so like asking people's, like, what are your safety protocols? Like, what do you know about the risks about the play we're going to do? And specifically ask, not just do you know the risks, well, like asking a whole profile.

SPEAKER_00:

Absolutely. That also ties in to more along the lines of what I was saying, like you need to understand and do some research yourself, take some classes, learn for yourself that what hazards can be included in this type of thing you're wanting to experience and explore. Like what are the dangers? What the dangers are, like how how things are supposed to be, the fact you're actually supposed to have negotiation beforehand about every detail about what's going to occur in in that scene. That's something that was not talked about in in my first experiences in the kink world, and that's something I wish I knew back then. Because it was like, hey, are you okay with you know, if you sign up for this, you're just okay with it.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

Like you sign up to get a spot on stage and you're not told, hey, like this is what could happen, or hey, you know, you're up here for this amount of time. You know, you can safe words, you can it's just, hey, you sign up for this to experience this. That's cool.

SPEAKER_02:

I wish there was much more of a um like you having to do, I don't know, like a BDSM 101 201 class before being able to be at these events or parties or whatever. Like, not that you can't play outside of that, but I just wish that was like a norm, like a a staple for every place.

SPEAKER_00:

And it's not it's not because movies and TV they romanticize the act. So people think that everything's like a movie, that you can just go into it and everything And yeah, there's some dangers, but I'll be fine.

SPEAKER_02:

Like it's a small amount of danger rather than like, oh, you could die from this. Exactly. Or like, oh, you could be severely burned, or you could lose mobility. Right. I can't tell you the amount of people that I've known over the years that now have some form of nerve damage from bondage, even like not extreme bondage. Um, they just didn't know. And um, they didn't know that they should tell people when to stop and things like that, unfortunately. Um how do you think kink and sexuality can promote greater inclusion and acceptance? And that's okay if you don't know how to answer that as a white man.

SPEAKER_00:

So the the way I see it, anytime I've gone to a kink event, there's people from all genders, from all races, from all types of status, from all ages.

SPEAKER_02:

That surprised you that surprised you.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, because it wasn't something that wasn't readily known. So it doesn't matter who you are in everyday life, as soon as you're in a kink space, you're who you can and want to be. There's there's nothing holding you back, there's no judgment. Everybody is there welcoming as long as everything is consensual.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, for sure. I know. So we just got back from kinky college in Chicago. Um, and uh, I know one of the things that was really nice for you is to see a lot of people in our age range, um, you know, and and a lot of different identities, like a lot of masks, a lot of um pet play, a lot of you saw a lot of age play, and like I guess like gender representations.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, because the the smaller events we went to were normally older, uh were an older crowd. You didn't see a lot of young crowds. Um whereas this one it's a lot of younger and more.

SPEAKER_02:

It was a masse, but yes, a lot of younger.

SPEAKER_00:

And it was way more diverse in in the the communities under the alphabet.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. We also saw saw a lot of like um, you know, minorities, people of um uh uh, you know, different cultures, which is nice.

SPEAKER_00:

And and and the beautiful thing is it's not just for the able-bodied. There are so many people in the community that are disabled. And that's I know that's something I think most people over like don't think about. Like maybe they feel like they can't be in it, but it doesn't matter. You're I mean, we saw people playing in wheelchairs and stuff and canes and it's just beautiful that people know that they can come into this and make friends and open up and be themselves. And you know, that's a big thing, even for me, you know, especially so like just finding out I had autism and just like making those connections of why I was so weird growing up and now like being in a place that accepts your weirdness, that accepts my weirdness. Oh, I love that to just be me and just be weird and talk to me.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, I think what I've noticed more in the years, it wasn't like this when I first got involved, but more in these kinks and in the lifestyle, they're having talks surrounding neurodivergence in general and the huge overlap in kink and neurodivergence for multiple different reasons. But I think one way that I think helping to be more inclusive is having those kind of workshops, like letting people know that that's so normal. There's so many people in the kink community that are neurodivergence on the spectrum. What, you know, on the whole entire neurodivergence spectrum, not just autism spectrum. Um, but I just think it's fascinating having these kind of classes and then also having classes surrounding chronic illness and disability with kink and stuff, and being able to have those classes helps make it more normalized.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. And and every day there's something new being learned about us as humans that's adding more beauty to the kink scene.

SPEAKER_02:

Absolutely. Having these kind of spaces that are specific for different groups, I think is beneficial as well. Like I know we're talking about inclusion for like being involved in these things, but sometimes I think about a lot of BIPOC communities that don't feel comfortable around, you know, I don't know, like white parties and things like that, and being able to have like a space that's specific for them to be safe and to feel safe, or LGBTQIA plus people.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And being able to have a space where they feel safe, that they don't have to be like in a only heteronormative space where they feel like an outsider.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So yeah, I think that's cool. Um what's a personal kink or fantasy you're comfortable sharing? You could talk about a basic one. You have a lot now that you've now that you've met me. Now that I'm sorry, there's a lot. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03:

You could talk about a fireplay.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh man, that that is a good one. Thank you for reminding me of that one.

SPEAKER_02:

I had to remind you.

SPEAKER_00:

It's been so long.

SPEAKER_02:

Ah, okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00:

So incorporating fireplay with a hand job was absolutely mind-blowing. It was something, you know, I've experienced fire and having a penis, I've experienced hand jobs. But sort of. Sort of. Well, before you it was definitely a sort of. But um when you were doing fire play and then you started giving me a hand job, it just fucking blew my mind. I did not know that that could be right there and be so amazing to just uh.

SPEAKER_02:

You were literally in ecstasy. I don't know that I've ever seen your eyes that far behind your bed, uh your head.

SPEAKER_00:

I think the only time I think the only other time that you've said that is sounding.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh yeah. Yeah, for sure. You are like that with sounding too. Well, and you can't see my face, but that's typically what's going on when you Well, I typically put pillows behind you so that your head goes up so I can see your face.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, no, no, no. I'm saying whenever whenever you do impact.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

That's any pretty much anytime you touch me, um, I'm the next is honestly.

SPEAKER_02:

I love that. You're so cute. Um, same though. Um, got me all flustered. I gotta find my questions. I got the fanny fletus. Um what is your favorite way to unwind and relax after a passionate experience with me? Besides passing out.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, you know, the I learned from you the melatonin that's released in the uh AMAP body.

SPEAKER_02:

Mm-hmm. Well, it's released in everybody, but I think it's more in an AMAP body.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. For sure. That's what you're saying. Um Well, we enjoy laughs like no other. And normally just recapping on our experience and just having a good laugh or aha and some motherfuckers is pretty nice.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, they don't know what that is. So basically we can explain you gotta explain to my listeners.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so basically we'll get on her phone and we'll play Family Feud or some other game where you compete against other people.

SPEAKER_02:

After we've done aftercare and stuff, obviously.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Um, after we've smoked too. Yeah. Smoke and cuddle. It's smoke and cuddle for aftercare, and then afterwards it's aha and motherfuckers, and that's where we get on and we put our our freshly mushed high brains together to come up with answers. To come up with answers and and and beat people in online games.

SPEAKER_02:

And we when we beat them, we say aha.

SPEAKER_00:

So we get on there and we aha motherfucker.

SPEAKER_02:

Honestly, it feels really good to aha someone. It really doesn't. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_00:

It's your competitive nature, my darling.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't have it anymore so much, do I?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, I do. Got it.

SPEAKER_00:

Anytime Jackbox is involved, or or what is it? Heads up?

SPEAKER_02:

And heads up.

SPEAKER_00:

Heads up.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly. Right. Um what would advice would you give to folks who feel they don't fit in traditional sexuality norms? Or I guess even traditional societal norms, you can even say. Since you identify as like an outsider like I do, you know, as an outside the box thinker, and so I've always felt as an outsider.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, you know, I I couldn't quite put my finger on it growing up, but there was a lot of a lot of trauma, just like anybody else. Um but there was a lot of things that was different about me. Um so I I never really felt like I fit in. I was trying to find my place, and that was a lot of not knowing who I was, and then understanding that you know, you don't have to be traditional. You don't have to, you know, have the Disney portrayed, you know. Life. Yeah, the life. It doesn't have to always be perfect. It doesn't have to be, you know, American dream with the wife and kids and picket fences. It's and the wife is a stay-at-home mom. It doesn't have to be that way. And and that was an experience that I had to learn the hard way. Um I've definitely caused myself a lot of trauma for trying to chase that drain.

SPEAKER_02:

Um only I think a lot of people have.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. And you know, if it works out for you, great. If it doesn't, that doesn't mean you're a defect. That doesn't mean there's something wrong with you. That just means that that's not your lane. That's not what the universe is meant for you.

SPEAKER_02:

You're meant to create a new path.

SPEAKER_00:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02:

Um it's like more you're more so like telling people like just like accept themselves for themselves.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

As long as it's perfectly legal. Don't don't be a don't be that guy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Or that girl. It's not always about that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

There are not so great women as well. Which we are aware of.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, we're both very aware of us.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, alright. Let's jump into some a couple cannabis questions. How about that? All right. So um what's a common misconception about cannabis that you've heard?

SPEAKER_00:

It's a gateway. It's not a gateway.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh my god, a heat.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh man.

SPEAKER_02:

It's a gateway to the to the couch. It's a gateway to the bridge.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, it's a gateway to a little bit of weight gain, but honestly, it's a gateway to fucking less stress and anxiety.

SPEAKER_02:

For sure. I think that it's becoming more well known as this, like as medicinal purposes. Like, oh, it's not just for people who want to get fucked up. It's there's so many reasons why people consume.

SPEAKER_00:

I know for your chronic pain, it helps wonders. Yeah. I mean, and even then there are times where it doesn't. And that's that's the thing. I know for me, it's great for headaches. It's great for my stress and anxiety when I'm overwhelmed, when I'm overstimulated and don't know what to do.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, it's also great for my pain. You know, my back hurts, I'm tall.

SPEAKER_02:

I understand.

SPEAKER_00:

Um But yeah, I've weeds never made me been like, wow, you know, this is so great. I just want to get so high on another drug. On crystal meth. Right. Like the the gateway thing's a bunch of bullshit. It's all about where you're at mentally and the people you have around you.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, absolutely. If you you're gonna want to try those drugs, it has nothing to do with you trying cannabis or consuming. Um learned about yourself through Kink.

SPEAKER_00:

So through Kink I've learned that, you know, I am I am more fluid um with my sexuality with who I am as a person. Like I don't every day I am a man's man, tall, bearded, works with my hands, but in kink I don't I don't have to be that. I can I can be submissive, I can be a little femme, I don't have to be, I could be a little. I don't I don't have to I don't have to stay is how I am. However I'm feeling is how I can be in kink.

SPEAKER_02:

I love that. That's so powerful. I don't think people talk about that enough and how they can present and how it gives the power to be able to present however the fuck you want and that time that that people can have so many different roles and show up in a different role every day.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and it's because of the safety that there is in the community. Like you're it's not that I'm ashamed of who I am, it's that you know, I've I've got a lot of people I need to protect. And if it um it's something that you know, I'm with the world how it is now, I would rather unfortunately I would rather appear to be one of the fucking tough guys, one of the tough guys to protect those around me.

SPEAKER_02:

For sure.

SPEAKER_00:

But whenever kink's involved, I'm free to be me.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I love that. I wonder like how many other people like feel that way, that they're just like, you know, like I know a lot of people in the professional industry that I've you know had as clients that are these masculine, huge CEO, big time um like dominant personalities in real life, in their real life. And then in kink, they can be feminized, they can be a sissy, they can be, they want to be that, right? Part of it's like balance, and part of it's like they're able to be whatever they want to be for that time frame. So, like I've seen it a lot in that way, but I don't know how many other people have had those similar experiences. Probably a lot. I'm assuming a lot. What's one piece of advice you'd give your younger self?

SPEAKER_00:

Do therapy.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, earlier for sure. I love that. Mental health fucking matters. It does.

SPEAKER_00:

Because honestly, there's so much of myself that I'm I'm having to go back and heal because I didn't I didn't do the therapy when I was younger. And I also would have had my autism diagnosis a little bit sooner, I believe, um, which would have greatly altered some feelings, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I think um people have an idea and a real scary thought toward mental health and like therapy. And um I think when you find a good therapist, the connection is so powerful. And like you that's when you can do your healing. Well, when you're in a safe environment and you're you're with people who support you, but also having someone that you click with and feels good.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I think the beautiful thing now is this generation, our generation is like understanding that and trying to get it for the younger generation, trying to get them to help that we didn't have.

SPEAKER_02:

I know it's not yeah, our parents weren't told to go to therapy, they were told to suck it up.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, we I was too. But I think there's our generation and and younger are trying to break these generational curses and generational trauma.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, so yeah, it makes sense. What is one major aspect of BDSM that I have taught you? Besides some of the stuff that you've already said.

SPEAKER_00:

One of the biggest aspects you've taught me.

SPEAKER_02:

You have talked about safety and you have talked about negotiations.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that's I mean, honestly, without that, like nothing else really Honestly, without that, nothing else matters. If you don't understand the negotiation aspect of tank and you don't understand the safety, then you shouldn't be doing the things. Well, not just that, your experience could be tanked because you and the person you're trying this with don't understand the risks. So it could be a bad experience for you and they think that they're doing a fantastic job.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And then they go out and do that to other people.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00:

So education and safety are paramount in this, and and that's the greatest thing I took away from it from anything that we've done.

SPEAKER_02:

And that I've taught you.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I've taught you some cool techniques.

SPEAKER_00:

You you have.

SPEAKER_02:

But yeah. But yeah. Um. Is there anything that you wanted to talk about with our time?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I'm just, you know, working in the shop, trying to figure out some new cool things to add to the site. Maybe some new furniture, some new uh, some new paddle designs.

SPEAKER_02:

We've been coming up with some cool ones.

SPEAKER_00:

We have.

SPEAKER_02:

And uh I know you're working on a smother box.

SPEAKER_00:

Smotherbox. Um what is it you called it? The cuffs, the boot?

SPEAKER_02:

The bootstrap cuffs? What cuffs? The oh, the yoke.

SPEAKER_03:

Yoke.

SPEAKER_02:

The yoke. Yes. You're gonna make some cool yokes and stuff. I love that. Also, yay to bondage. We love bondage.

SPEAKER_00:

We gotta have a test subject, you know.

SPEAKER_02:

Thought that's what Parker's for. Our little crash test dummy. Um, okay, so all right, so that's what's coming up with you. Um, how about like what are some pro dom sessions that you want to have that you haven't had yet? I love when the cute subby boys submit to you.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I do love that. It's a little hot for me, I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you you just have that thing. And that's perfectly fine because it's enjoyable for me as well. I love that.

SPEAKER_02:

So, what kind of things would would be hot for you? You did get some really nice new boots.

SPEAKER_00:

I did. I did.

SPEAKER_02:

Maybe some boot worship sessions?

SPEAKER_00:

Boot worship, maybe somebody wants to be stepped on. Be stepped on. Maybe somebody wants to feel like I'm a giant.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, I love that. Can you say it a little slower next time? No, I'm just saying. Yeah, well, now that you're like, you know, learn you've learned like a lot of like impact skills, it might be cool for you to have some like over-the-knee stuff. Some over-the-knee impact sessions.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, you know. Poor daddy's gotta hand out some uh punishment. You know, maybe that looks like somebody's been a bad they, them, he, him, she, she, she, her.

SPEAKER_02:

I love that. There might be some naughty listeners listening in right now.

SPEAKER_00:

Maybe.

SPEAKER_02:

I think you should do your I think you should do your daddy voice for them.

SPEAKER_00:

My daddy voice.

SPEAKER_02:

Growl and growl. They might find it hot.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh I don't know if I can do the growl right now. My throat's pretty scratched with the cold. Fair. Been brought into this house.

SPEAKER_02:

Fair.

SPEAKER_00:

Fair.

SPEAKER_02:

Um maybe we'll have you like read a story sometime for the listeners. Maybe. I don't know if you guys are ready for that though. It's fire. And then when he starts adding accents in.

SPEAKER_00:

So Roy Kinnan, though.

SPEAKER_02:

He's very good with his accents. Um, all right. We always ask our people that we have on, and while you are very different, you're not different in this. We're gonna ask you the same question. What is one of your favorite ways to connect with a partner? By partner, I mean me.

SPEAKER_00:

My favorite way to connect with you is through touch and laughter.

SPEAKER_02:

I love that.

SPEAKER_00:

So just touching your body and feeling your energy anytime, and there are times I can feel your energy without having to touch you. But just absolutely getting the energy through the touch is just it's so wonderful. It's I feel so connected with you, and then you know, when you throw in um breathing.

SPEAKER_02:

Like our deep breathing that we do.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, our deep breathing exercises, and we get on the same heart. It's like we get on the same heartbeat, the same breath pattern, and it's just we're so connected and so great.

SPEAKER_02:

I love that.

SPEAKER_00:

Because I've never had that with anybody else. I never knew how to connect with anybody else.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh-huh. I love that. Makes me feel special things.

SPEAKER_00:

We are special.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, anything else you want to share with the folks? Nothing? Anything?

SPEAKER_00:

Um. If you have it and get online and look at all these classes, there's there's quite a lot of classes. How many classes do y'all have online though?

SPEAKER_02:

Um on my on-demand classes, I have 77 on there right now.

SPEAKER_00:

And they go from 101s to 201s to intensive.

SPEAKER_02:

Advanced, all the things. And a few of them you're demo bottoming in. And I know you're going to be demo bottoming for some more stuff. So some people can see you in your skippies, what do they call it? And yeah, unwiss. Um, yeah, okay. Well, thank you for coming on. And um maybe we'll have some more episodes, some fun stuff with you in it for future if you're down.

SPEAKER_00:

I am absolutely okay with that. This has been a great experience.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, thank you. You're down to clown.

SPEAKER_00:

Down to clown.

SPEAKER_02:

Thank you so much for joining. I hope you um had a good time. Not didn't really learn much, probably, but I hope you had a good time. And I look forward to um seeing you guys in future classes, future events, all of the things. Take care of yourselves.

SPEAKER_00:

Later.

SPEAKER_02:

Thanks for joining us. Tune in next time for more Adventures in the Lounge. And remember, always keep an open mind. You never know what's around the corner.